From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 01 14:06:08 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D6FVI-00026t-7c for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:06:08 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D6FVI-00026o-5g for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:06:08 -0800 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:06:08 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: how to say "learn how to swear in Lojban" Message-ID: <20050301220608.GF26980@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <200503012008.j21K8iTd007644@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503012008.j21K8iTd007644@mole.e-mol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 1183 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 03:08:44PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > I'm making a promotional poster for a Lojban event at a science > fiction convention, which I would like to be a bilingual > English/Lojban poster. Sounds excellent! Which con? > I want to say (among other things) "learn how to swear in Lojban." First you'd have to define "swear". If you want insult, that's easy, but "swear" generally means "use words that would offend the average speaker of the language"; there is no such thing in Lojban. > I tried {ko cilre fi lo zu'o mabla sepi'o ma bau la lojban}. Is > {sepi'o ma} the right way to say "how"? It's one way, but it's not the right way in this case, IMO. For one thing, you want {ma kau}. For another, I'd use {ta'i} instead of {se pi'o}. > Do I need to close off the abstraction at the end of the sentence > with {kei} to avoid saying that the learning is {sepi'o ma bau la > lojban}? Yes. I suggest something like: ko cilre lo tadji be lo nu gunta cusku bau la lojban -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/