From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 23 15:08:09 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DEExN-0006jB-F0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:08:09 -0800 Received: from genamics.blastula.net ([205.214.85.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.44) id 1DEExJ-0006j2-G4 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:08:09 -0800 Received: from [203.184.34.80] (helo=gulik.co.nz) by genamics.blastula.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DEExF-0004uh-VY for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:08:03 +1200 Message-ID: <4241F6D1.5020805@gulik.co.nz> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:08:01 +1200 From: Michael van der Gulik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040216 Debian/1.6.x.1-10 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hello list [introduction] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - genamics.blastula.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - chain.digitalkingdom.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gulik.co.nz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-archive-position: 1310 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners .ui coi .cindras. lojban@shindra.com wrote: >Short version: hi! I'm new. I'm gonna learn Lojban and ask questions about it, so I hope you'll be a nice list :p > > > This is a very nice list! >Long version: >It's long since I came upon the thought that natural languages are clumsy and ineffecient and that something should be done about it, and I soon heard a bit about Esparanto. But it wasn't until a few days ago when a friend told me about Lojban that I really looked into it. I read about Lojban and Esparanto and read some articles comparing the two, and to me Lojban's system looks significantly better than Esparanto's. I must confess that I haven't given other constructed languages a chance. I fell for Lojban pretty quickly. Constructed languages had to happen, and I'm a big fan of logic, so I'm gonna make Lojban my new hobby :) So now you know why you'll be seeing me around here, bothering you with basic questions ;) > > Go for your life :-). Some tips from another beginner: - get SuperMemo to learn vocabulary. http://www.lojban.org/tiki//tiki-index.php?page=Software&bl - The grammer reference book and a beginners book are available from http://www.lojban.org/. I keep a downloaded copy, and use chapter 20 and the search function (CTRL-f) on my browser to find things in it. - Print this dictionary out and keep it handy! http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/lojban/ >I'm from Denmark, and my thinking is half in Danish half in English. > > .e'u ko cusku bau la lojban (I'll leave that one as an exercise for you :-) ). mi'e maik.