From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 28 08:21:22 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DFwzS-0002Rr-DX for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:21:22 -0800 Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.44) id 1DFwzP-0002RW-1X for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:21:22 -0800 Received: from mail.123.net (nobody@new.e-mol.com [65.169.135.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j2SGKjTd027732 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:20:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:20:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200503281620.j2SGKjTd027732@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: interrelated vocab word length Re: Re: Hello list [introduction] In-Reply-To: <20050327001832.GQ10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20050327001832.GQ10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [209.220.229.254] Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-archive-position: 1344 X-Approved-By: mattarn@123.net X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners If you take all the spaces out of a Lojban text, does it change or lose information? Can they be put back in by a computer? For that matter, what if you change every consonant to 1 and every vowel to 0? Can the spaces still be put back in? - epkat lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >A Lojban speech stream, with emphasis and a few required pauses, can >only be decoded in to words in one way. No natural language, that I >am aware of, has this feature. No homonyms, nor groups of words >that can be interpreted different ways. A famous English example >being "ice cream" versus "I scream". > >-Robin > >On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:01:28PM +0100, lojban@shindra.com wrote: >> er... uhm... what does 'unambiguous morphology' mean? >> >> = = = Original message = = = >> >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 08:26:29AM +0100, lojban@shindra.com wrote: >> > I don't think words would get too long if one just used >> > single-syllable root words. That would yield more than 250 root >> > words with the same letters and VV-diphthongs Lojban uses. >> >> But would it preserve the unambiguous morphology? I doubt it very >> much. >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ >> Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" >> Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. >> Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ >Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" >Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com