From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 28 10:12:08 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DFyie-0004cK-L3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:12:08 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DFyib-0004bU-Ck for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:12:08 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so557499wra for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:11:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Em1vDLI3Nx80gVI9nl3Mqaqx1br/q7B07lXuNpJRADQUjzELH9ugVSk7NidultLQ4ewz9rppuTAt32hoGoKWsJlYShdi5sEGl6VWitYIbXEDg5oQjqjK4Ns6QQsO8slrCNzSYRSzzm88YrfNL0O2+Edlm2RUXjjkob1iTDdy4lc= Received: by 10.54.13.34 with SMTP id 34mr1330173wrm; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.69.3 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:11:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560503281011165b958@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:11:06 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: interrelated vocab word length Re: Re: Hello list [introduction] In-Reply-To: <200503281620.j2SGKjTd027732@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <20050327001832.GQ10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <200503281620.j2SGKjTd027732@mole.e-mol.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1348 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:20:45 -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > If you take all the spaces out of a Lojban text, does it change > or lose information? You can remove the spaces only if you don't omit any "." and also mark all brivla stress. It is more economical in terms of number of different characters needed to use a space after a brivla to mark the stress, instead of having to use five different stressed vowel symbols. > Can they be put back in by a computer? The parser can insert spaces between words, but because spaces are optional after cmavo the result will not necessarily be the same as what you had before removing them. > For that matter, what if you change every consonant to 1 and > every vowel to 0? Can the spaces still be put back in? You need to differentiate stressed from unstressed vowels, "y" from other vowels and consonants, and also you may need to recognize dipthongs from non-diphthong vowel pairs, depending on what you do with the apostrophe and what the BPFK decides about allowed vowel combinations in fu'ivla. mu'o mi'e xorxes