From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Apr 23 09:12:01 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DPNEf-0003je-KV for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:12:01 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPNEd-0003jQ-MB for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:12:01 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so951871wra for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nXZh6eb5inUOErHdkTnMpCjWLf2ps/dyUKi58qSGMv22oLUfjvsCEqy6t3qhqAGjdPUTbZ2lpx3wYze+u6kTDxxqOFRfwGwecfQvoWE/FDZqR0IVMhnCU8mGHlBjQ5WkkGBl3tbPwVcioLTpcbDlqsdlWrMQD8IG2X7KKVF+20E= Received: by 10.54.115.13 with SMTP id n13mr1064560wrc; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d1756050423091135e06c3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:11:28 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban beginners list In-Reply-To: <4269F9F9.2070006@gulik.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <5132817.1113846425529.JavaMail.stiofan@mac.com> <20050418174936.GW10596@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <5167424.1113864039505.JavaMail.stiofan@mac.com> <20050418230248.GA10596@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20050422195800.GB21958@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4269F9F9.2070006@gulik.co.nz> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1386 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/23/05, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > > The Lojban word for relationship is "brivla", which is the main word in > a Lojban sentence. These come in three flavours: gismu (base words), > lujvo (compound words) and fu'ivla (words from other languages). An > "argument" is just a complicated name for the x1, x2, x3, x4 or x5 > places of a brivla. Just a minor nitpick: "brivla" is really a morphological term, that contrasts with "cmene" and "cmavo". Every Lojban word is one of those three by their form. All brivla are relationships, but not all relationships are brivla. The Lojban word for relationship is "selbri". Examples of non-brivla relationships (or selbri) are {du}, {go'i}, {pa moi}, {me la djan}, ... mu'o mi'e xorxes