From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Apr 23 21:30:18 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DPYl8-0007GF-9v for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:30:18 -0700 Received: from genamics.blastula.net ([205.214.85.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.50) id 1DPYl5-0007G6-Fi for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:30:18 -0700 Received: from [203.184.28.141] (helo=gulik.co.nz) by genamics.blastula.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DPYko-00022i-TQ for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:30:09 +1200 Message-ID: <426B207C.8090000@gulik.co.nz> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:28:44 +1200 From: Michael van der Gulik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040216 Debian/1.6.x.1-10 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban beginners list References: <5132817.1113846425529.JavaMail.stiofan@mac.com> <20050418174936.GW10596@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <5167424.1113864039505.JavaMail.stiofan@mac.com> <20050418230248.GA10596@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20050422195800.GB21958@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4269F9F9.2070006@gulik.co.nz> <925d1756050423091135e06c3b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d1756050423091135e06c3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - genamics.blastula.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - chain.digitalkingdom.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gulik.co.nz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1387 X-Approved-By: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jorge Llambías wrote: >On 4/23/05, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > > >>The Lojban word for relationship is "brivla", which is the main word in >>a Lojban sentence. These come in three flavours: gismu (base words), >>lujvo (compound words) and fu'ivla (words from other languages). An >>"argument" is just a complicated name for the x1, x2, x3, x4 or x5 >>places of a brivla. >> >> > >Just a minor nitpick: "brivla" is really a morphological term, that >contrasts with "cmene" and "cmavo". Every Lojban word is one >of those three by their form. > >All brivla are relationships, but not all relationships are brivla. The >Lojban word for relationship is "selbri". Examples of non-brivla >relationships (or selbri) are {du}, {go'i}, {pa moi}, {me la djan}, ... > > .io ki'e .i mi ca'o cilre mi'e mikevdg.