From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 04 04:25:39 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 04 May 2005 04:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTI0Y-0003Xx-Vs for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 04:25:39 -0700 Received: from mxsrv1.tranzpeer.net ([202.180.66.214]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.50) id 1DTI0P-0003XM-G6 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 04:25:38 -0700 Received: from [203.184.34.169] (helo=gulik.co.nz) by mxsrv1.tranzpeer.net with ESMTP (Exim 4.34) id 1DTHzs-0000PA-E1 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:24:57 +1200 Message-ID: <4278B115.7020000@gulik.co.nz> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:25:09 +1200 From: Michael van der Gulik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040216 Debian/1.6.x.1-10 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [ANN] LearnLojban for the PalmPilot References: <42745406.4010704@gulik.co.nz> <7dc831ed050501233213587f21@mail.gmail.com> <200505021517.j42FHFTd008306@mole.e-mol.com> In-Reply-To: <200505021517.j42FHFTd008306@mole.e-mol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1405 X-Approved-By: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners >>On 5/1/05, Michael van der Gulik wrote: >> >> >>>coi rodo >>> >>>I've written an application for the PalmPilot to help learn Lojban. It >>>is very similar to SuperMemo, except that (1) it is free/gratis and open >>>source, and (2) with a bit of help from other people with these devices, >>>it could be easily ported to WinCE and Symbian devices (i.e. most of the >>>PDAs and SmartPhones out there). You can also run it in Windows, Linux >>>and anything with Java if you have a Java compiler installed. When I get >>>around to it, I'll package it better so its easier to use. >>> >>>A PalmPilot version and source are available here: >>>http://www.gulik.co.nz/LearnLojban_0.0.1.zip. >>> >>>I have used SuperWaba (i.e. Java) to write it; more information about >>>SuperWaba is available at http://www.superwaba.org. The source code is >>>in that zip file above. Its a very simple application; any Java >>>programmer can customise it. >>> >>>Note that this is an alpha release so there may be bugs. Comments / >>>feedback are welcome. >>> >>> lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>That sounds great I just want to direct your attention towards Rememorizer >>>>which is also an open source, supermemo alike memorizer written with >>>>superwaba. Rememorizer has its home on >>>>http://www.sf.net/projects/rememorizer I don't want to say that you >>>>shouldn't do this I just want to say that perhaps it would be more effective >>>>for you if you just helped the development of Rememorizer and this way >>>>helped a common effort towards creating a more effective open source >>>>program, rather than you having to write everything from scratch. This is >>>>only a suggestion. >>>>Cheers >>>>Adam >>>> >>>> >Matt Arnold wrote: > > What I want to know about the applications is whether they support backward flashcard memorization which language learning seems to need. In other words, when you are shown a Lojban word and asked for the English word, and then given the English word and asked for the Lojban word, does the program know that these are the same information? Does it link them together in any way so that they stay together in the schedule? >-epkat > > Hi. Could I ask nicely that we write replies ba'e under emails? I could add bidirectionality as a "wanted feature" if you want. The way I'd implement it would be to have two separate "modules" - one from Lojban->English, and the other from English->Lojban. These modules could also include other languages, such as French or Esperanto. You'd be using only one module at a time, and you would need to explicitely switch between them to change from guessing Lojbanic words to guessing English words. But first I'm going to fix all (er... most of...) the bugs and implement looking up Lojban words. Mikevdg.