From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 10 19:38:57 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 10 May 2005 19:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DVh7h-0006r9-Bv for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:38:57 -0700 Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.50) id 1DVh7e-0006qZ-Rn for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:38:57 -0700 Received: from mail.123.net (nobody@new.e-mol.com [65.169.135.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j4B2cNTd019884 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:38:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:38:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200505110238.j4B2cNTd019884@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: beginning In-Reply-To: <569243df050510181031e1f553@mail.gmail.com> References: <569243df050510145878111971@mail.gmail.com> <200505102226.j4AMQ7Td007219@mole.e-mol.com> <42813D66.8020108@gulik.co.nz> <569243df0505101720268137a@mail.gmail.com> <569243df050510181031e1f553@mail.gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [69.246.119.219] Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 1447 X-Approved-By: mattarn@123.net X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners A cmene is a proper name for someone or something, like "Bob" or "Empire State Building." Except in Lojban you would spell and pronouce them a little bit differently. Usually you put "la" in front of a name, instead of "le." In the structure of the Lojban sentence, you have a "selbri" which means a relationship, surrounded by one or more "sumti". The sumti are the things which are related to each other by the selbri. Like for instance, "do pendo mi," "do" means you, "mi" means me and "pendo" means "friend." "pendo" is the relationship word in this sentence, which is saying that the way "mi" and "do" have to do with each other, is that they are friends. A gismu is a root word. You can always tell a root word because it will have five letters, and they will go CCVCV or CVCCV, where C means a consonant and V means a vowel. There is much more but this is enough for the moment. -epkat lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >Ok I feel i'm learning, and thats good! >ive got the use of "le" and i feel that's important > >Now the only think i need is some definitions of words here. I know >they're different, parts of speech (thats not hte right term, but >thats ok) > >cmene >sumti >gismu > >Thanks all, you're really a great help. > >On 5/10/05, Dom wrote: >> indeed. >> thanks guys, ill check out some of those resources. >> >> a while ago i made a million flashcards with vowel pairs, and >> consonant pairs and their pronunciations on the back. I guess ill >> pick that up where i left off. I guess what I'm really looking for is >> the basics of the language, like pronouns, and how to congegate verbs, >> as a starting point. i suppose thats in those resources, so ill just >> email back when i get stuck >> >> On 5/10/05, Michael van der Gulik wrote: >> > Matt Arnold wrote: >> > >> > > Among constructed languages, Lojban seems to be exceptional in its community and learning tools. Please do not hesitate to ask for help on this list as it is very responsive. >> > >-epkat >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > No kidding. Our friend here got two responses within 30 minutes. >> > >> > Mikevdg. >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com