From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 20 14:10:54 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DkTXi-0008ID-Dm for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DkTXi-0008I6-5E for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "by standard" "under conditions" Message-ID: <20050620211054.GO32424@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <12d58c16050620114311a1f50d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12d58c16050620114311a1f50d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 1526 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:43:23PM -0400, Adam COOPER wrote: > I have a bear of a time with two of the more common "trailing" > places of gismu, places labeled "by standard xn" and "under > conditions xn". That's OK; no-one understands them. > Do abstractions belong in there? Objects? Probably either events or properties. > I suppose examples of such gismu with all their places filled > would be ideal, if anyone's game. Thanks in advance. Pick one. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/