From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 27 02:07:27 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DmpaR-0000OQ-67 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:07:27 -0700 Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DmpaM-0000OI-9J for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:07:26 -0700 Received: by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix, from userid 72) id 255C932584; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:07:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [139.179.111.106] (ppp106.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.106]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD8F27051 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:07:18 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42BFC1D8.9050101@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:07:36 +0300 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050322) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban neography References: <1119217594.8641.7.camel@localhost> <200506201344.j5KDiLTd003997@mole.e-mol.com> In-Reply-To: <200506201344.j5KDiLTd003997@mole.e-mol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1537 X-Approved-By: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Matt Arnold wrote: > coi rodo, > A couple of years ago I read of Eric S. Raymond's Tengwar orthography for Lojban (http://www.catb.org/~esr/tengwar/lojban-tengwar.html) and it got me thinking about Lojban alphabets. I had an idea which I've been working on for a couple of years, to design an alphabet along certain principles: > 1. Each word would be written without the pen leaving the page; no dotting i's or crossing t's. A gap in the line would represent the period character, which is a pause. The problem here is that it is actually harder to write in a completely cursive style - the breaks that occur in the middle of words when writing with the Latin alphabet actually serve a useful purpose. Other than that, it's a nice idea. You need to simplify "x", though, as it's a very common sound in Lojban, and pentagrams take a lot of pen strokes. In terms of ease of writing, you could borrow some ideas from Gregg shorthand, perhaps. robin.tr -- "I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language devised for telling one another where the best fruit is." -- Terry Pratchett Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin