From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jul 19 15:01:04 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1Dv099-0007fY-Qu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:01:03 -0700 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.86]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Dv095-0007fH-ME for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:01:03 -0700 Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j6JM0wrj029363 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (p5083c8a8.dip.t-dialin.net [80.131.200.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j6JM0sHa028957 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) In-Reply-To: <42DD0C43.7080808@yandex.ru> References: <42D4E5C4.4010906@yandex.ru> <42DD0C43.7080808@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis From: Jan Pilgenroeder Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: tcadu Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:00:58 +0200 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1590 X-Approved-By: pille@mac.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: pille@mac.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Am 19.07.2005 um 16:20 schrieb Aleksej R. Serdyukov: > Jan Pilgenroeder wrote: > > [...] > > ki'e > > >> People living in the southernmost tip of the Netherlands would >> probably say: >> mi na xabju le te tcadu be fi la axen. >> > > te tcadu - political unit of. > "I don't live in the political unit la .axen. belongs to" ? > > >> .iku'i mi xabju le ve tcadu be fo la axen. >> > > ve tcadu - region > "But I live in the region of la .axen." > > What's that political unit, then? A typo or? Aachen (that's the German spelling, in Dutch its "Aaken", in French it's "Aix la Chapelle") is in Germany. But the region it serves as a center for commerce spreads into the Netherlands and Belgium, except on German holidays when the people from Aachen do their shopping in the Netherlands (.iku'i la axen. cu zvati le marna ve tcadu be fo la vals. a. la mastrixt.). From the city center it's just a 10-20 minute drive to the Dutch or Belgian borders. When I first read the definition for tcadu, I, thought that's a lot of stuff one will probably never use. But once you really think about it, it starts to make sense and seems quite usable. Bye, Jan. --- Jan Pilgenroeder Plaßmannshof 21 57439 Attendorn pille@mac.com