From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 19 16:48:28 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E6Gb6-0000BW-L7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:48:28 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E6Gar-0000B8-DU for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:48:28 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so481586nzp for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:48:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bpKJXQ6MV0pZn4vKAiNVsHB2EkKoRiK6wib8dtT5Ft4SptKwp9nI/zJ85egTdpwE2S+R5vpb6gtcgzAm2lZaAtSnbWvbDf4jS5TV4oImapUxHwDY67HQK0lE4can80RZXMS2rttQLEx2Abc+PjMVhSbfFnBRyWOTlSEF10pBkR4= Received: by 10.36.220.4 with SMTP id s4mr2901700nzg; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.64 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d3df92a05081916484aa09394@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:48:09 +0200 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zgana, viska, catlu In-Reply-To: <737b61f30508190906129bb462@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4581_28922860.1124495289314" References: <2d3df92a0508190134363dd206@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30508190812a3b277d@mail.gmail.com> <925d1756050819084250856251@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30508190906129bb462@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 1791 X-Approved-By: exitconsole@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_4581_28922860.1124495289314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > We can't have this perfectly. While creating the Lojban project it > was discovered that this was impossible. You could break up {ninmu} > "woman" into pieces: {fetsi remna} "female human." But then you can > break up human into pieces as well. And you can break up female into > pieces. You can break up viska, and sudden, and intentional, into > multiple words. But this would never stop because you could break up > those words too. I see my mistake now: I've thought there was an end of the *chain*, while= =20 the system of meanings was a complete *network* not ending anywhere. > You used logflash to learn the list, and so you aren't familiar with > the place structure of each word. I'm using Supermemo and learning the > entire place structure of each word as I go along. Hm... sounds great. Where can I get it? > And in any case the gismu list is completely frozen for all eternity > (until language drift kicks in) so no complaining etc. etc. I think > it's still a much better situation than any other language. No doubt at all. Sorry about all the misunderstanding of {zgana}'s meaning "observe"=20 (instead of "see"), and thanx for the answers. heliodor ------=_Part_4581_28922860.1124495289314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
> We can't have this perfectly. While creating the Lojban project i= t
> was discovered that this was impossible. You could break up {ninm= u}
> "woman" into pieces: {fetsi remna} "female human.= " But then you can
> break up human into pieces as well. And you can break up female in= to
> pieces. You can break up viska, and sudden, and intentional, int= o
> multiple words. But this would never stop because you could break= up
> those words too.
I see my mistake now: I've thought there was an end of the *chain*, wh= ile the system of meanings was a complete *network* not ending anywhere.
> You used logflash to learn the list, and so you aren't familiar w= ith
> the place structure of each word. I'm using Supermemo and learn= ing the
> entire place structure of each word as I go along.
Hm... sounds great. Where can I get it?
> And in any case the gismu list is completely frozen for all etern= ity
> (until language drift kicks in) so no complaining etc. etc. I t= hink
> it's still a much better situation than any other language.
No doubt at all.
 
Sorry about all the misunderstanding of {zgana}'s meaning "observ= e" (instead of "see"),
and thanx for the answers.
 
heliodor
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