From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 23 10:23:52 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E7cV6-0007H7-4Z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:23:52 -0700 Received: from mx14.yandex.ru ([213.180.200.14]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E7cV2-0007H0-QK for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:23:51 -0700 Received: from h116.keldysh.ru ([194.226.57.116]:31411 "EHLO [194.226.57.116]" smtp-auth: "deletesoftware" TLS-CIPHER: "RC4-MD5 keybits 128/128 version TLSv1/SSLv3" TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S1783411AbVHWRXh (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:23:37 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at mx14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: deletesoftware Message-ID: <430B4434.6050704@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:43:48 +0400 From: "Aleksej R. Serdyukov" Organization: Delete Software Limited User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050331) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pronounciation problem References: <8f2fd4aa0508221308219e0853@mail.gmail.com> <430AEC2D.10304@handgranat.org> In-Reply-To: <430AEC2D.10304@handgranat.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1842 X-Approved-By: deletesoftware@yandex.ru X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: deletesoftware@yandex.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Sunnan wrote: > I guess I often have the same problem in English, not knowing when it's > 'c' or 'j'. > I find 'z' and 'j' easier when doing the drag king thing, talking from > the lungs. Hmm. Do many Scandinavians have problem with differing between {s}{c}{z}{j}{tc} in pronunciation? To all: How do I say about such an alternation in Lojban? Should I use {vrici}?