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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A question about se
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:56:22 -0500
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Ah..ok, I think I understand now. Thank you very much! Yeah, the  
jbofi'e output is pretty different.

-ZAkyris.

On Aug 26, 2005, at 3:21 AM, Evgeny Sklyanin wrote:

> On 8/26/05, Zachary <vyseofarcadia17@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was just reading the section in Lojban for Beginners on conversion
>> and the use of se. What puzzles me is not se itself, but the fact
>> that both cu and se are placed before the selbri sometimes, but not
>> always. For example
>>
>> le nu mi klama cu se tcika la daucac.
>>
>> Wouldn't the use of se in front of the selbri signify that it is the
>> selbri, thus making cu useless?
>>
>
> No, it wouldn't. If we drop {cu} in the above sentence then  {klama}
> and {se tcika} will glue together to form a single selbri (tanru)
> {klama se tcika}. Besides, {cu}  terminates the abstraction started by
> {nu}. Without it, {la daucac} comes under the scope of {nu}.
> Try the two versions (with {cu} amd without) by jbofi'e and see the  
> difference.
>
> mu'o mi'e .evgenis.
>
>
>
>