From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Aug 27 02:19:20 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E8wqN-0002m5-GK for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:19:19 -0700 Received: from mx18.yandex.ru ([213.180.200.18]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E8wqD-0002lR-LB for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:19:18 -0700 Received: from h116.keldysh.ru ([194.226.57.116]:40593 "EHLO [194.226.57.116]" smtp-auth: "deletesoftware" TLS-CIPHER: "DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA keybits 256/256 version TLSv1/SSLv3" TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S3375110AbVH0JTI (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:19:08 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at mx18.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: deletesoftware Message-ID: <430F67E1.5010600@yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:05:05 +0400 From: diLItyr Organization: diLIT.softuer.LImited User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050331) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pronounciation problem References: <430AEC2D.10304@handgranat.org> <430B4434.6050704@yandex.ru> <430D7455.8030104@yandex.ru> <925d1756050825052155672919@mail.gmail.com> <430E0F4E.1040206@yandex.ru> <925d175605082606081d285990@mail.gmail.com> <925d1756050826080414dabb90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d1756050826080414dabb90@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070600080905010702050208" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-archive-position: 1884 X-Approved-By: deletesoftware@yandex.ru X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: deletesoftware@yandex.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070600080905010702050208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jorge Llambías wrote: >>So would it be {tei tycy foi}? > > In this case probably {sy ce cy ce zy ce jy ce ty cy} > (is that a tonguetwister or what?) Really... {le cizra sance cu ca'a ja'a jai je'a cmima sy ce cy ce zy ce jy ce ty cy} > would seem to be enough, > since there is no need to set {ty cy} appart from anything > else, but yes, {tei ... foi} would group them together. > (But in either case we wouldn't pronounce the combination > in question.) Well, why, it is the list of letters sounds of which at least two Scandinavians I know have problems with. :-) -- mu'o --------------070600080905010702050208 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="deletesoftware.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="deletesoftware.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOi5hbGVrc2Vpcy4gc2VyZGl1S09GLg0KbjpzZXJkaXVLT0YuOy5h bGVrc2Vpcy4NCmFkcjo7Ozttb3Nrb3Y7OztydWt5Z3UnZQ0KZW1haWw7aW50ZXJuZXQ6ZGVs ZXRlc29mdHdhcmVAeWFuZGV4LnJ1DQp4LW1vemlsbGEtaHRtbDpGQUxTRQ0KdXJsOmh0dHA6 Ly9kZWxldGVzb2Z0d2FyZS5mYXRhbC5ydS8NCnZlcnNpb246Mi4xDQplbmQ6dmNhcmQNCg0K --------------070600080905010702050208--