From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 05 00:32:40 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ECBT6-000190-9H for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:32:40 -0700 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de ([139.1.44.13]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ECBSy-00018n-No for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:32:40 -0700 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j857WUSh019177 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:32:30 +0200 Received: from GDDEBESAPP004.de.gedas-grp (gddebesapp004.de.gedas-grp [10.242.64.42]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j857WUd6019171 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:32:30 +0200 Received: from blnsem08.de.gedas-grp ([139.1.84.54]) by GDDEBESAPP004.de.gedas-grp with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:32:30 +0200 Received: by blnsem08.de.gedas-grp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:32:30 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Newton, Philip" To: "'lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org'" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Another Newbie Intro Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:32:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2005 07:32:30.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[F95F7220:01C5B1EB] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1945 X-Approved-By: Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la .skat. cu cusku di'e > > mi'e la nei,omis...and that's as far as I will delve into lojban, > > before i make a fool of myself unwittingly ;) > > coi la nei,omis .e coi rodo .i mi'e la skat. > > And I have no doubt made an error or more even in those short > sentences! lol. Yes - .e connects sumti, so you could say {coi la nei,omis .e rodo} but not {coi la nei,omis .e coi rodo} since {coi rodo} is not a sumti. I would've left out {la} after COI and would've said {coi .nei,omis. .e rodo .i mi'e .skat.}, but leaving in the {la} is not wrong. (Random minor point: note that it's {mi'e .skat.} with mandatory pauses at either end of {.skat.} but {mi'e la skat.} with a mandatory pause only at the end, but not the beginning, of {skat.}, due to the "no la/lai/doi in names" rule -- though neither pause needs to be written if you use spaces, as I understand it. I try to write mandatory pauses anyway.) > co'o > la skat. BTW that means "Goodbye, Scott!" -- COI is followed by the person you're addressing (except for {mi'e}). You probably meant co'o mi'e .skat. or, if you prefer, co'o mi'e la skat. As for me, I tend to use {mu'o} in email exchanges since I'm not parting or saying good-bye, as such; rather, I expect people to respond to my message and so I say the equivalent of "I'm finished talking now; you can respond now if you wish". Personal preference, I suppose. mu'o mi'e .filip.