From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Sep 16 16:35:48 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EGPkC-0003M9-JE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:35:48 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EGPk8-0003Lz-50 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:35:48 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so230792nze for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PzL9bhsVmp34LVDbpa+hON7qeWDxWmOOoF02PYVRqUtlR74VI4+nYqZ+2Rw69xMRrusBXBXWYOw82JNpuI1JLB/nRB7AAruU3umJ6ftBflFwPfEqfxlZGOxU5g66SrhTJn2DTR38ApqJ40sqvjlF7wzIxugEBGws4x9xTWZqmaQ= Received: by 10.54.40.49 with SMTP id n49mr119814wrn; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605091616357086de4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:35:39 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: podcast (was Newbie Intro) In-Reply-To: <20050916181616.GW8615@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <5ba3a3a5d3359a8e9d63b38e6b099ade@ghostgun.com> <20050916181616.GW8615@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2105 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 9/16/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:52:42AM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > > I'd like to say "hello, and welcome to the first lojbanic > > broadcast of the first lojbanic broadcaster." > > {.i le pa moi cu jbocradi le pa moi} works, though, as "The first > Lojbanic radio broadcaster of the first Lojbanic radio broadcast", > but it's a bare statement. Hmm... That really says "the first one lojban-broadcasts the first one", but it is not at all clear about the first what lojban-broadcasts the first what. "The first lojbanic broadcast of the first lojbanic broadcaster" is a noun, not a bridi, it would be something like {le pamoi se jbocradi be le pamoi jbocradi}. But you can't really use {fi'i} for "welcome _to_". > I'd move the "fi'i" into that sentence > (but make sure to make it "fi'i do" or the fi'i will eat the next > sumti). That still doesn't get us "welcome to". You could also say something like: coi fi'i i pa re'u cradi lo lojbo "Hello and welcome! For the first time broadcasting something Lojbanic." In fact, it would be useful to have a lujvo for "x1 welcomes x2 to x3" or something like that. Perhaps {zanselvi'e}? Then you could say: coi tirna mi do zanselvi'e le pamoi se jbocradi be le pamoi jbocradi "Hello listener! I welcome you to the first lojbanic-broadcast of the first lojbanic-broadcaster." mu'o mi'e xorxes