From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 21 06:07:47 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EI4KA-0003vv-Pn for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:07:46 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EI4Jz-0003vm-EM for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:07:46 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so583571nze for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:07:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YoWTH20HfD+Wjdnns2akSMPutgfTC2dJ1Zxb0h4ntnYcz6sBxApAwGmIC3X/OviNdpAI6kCstnDAQ5BJxM1ysfrEdJTfSIZ2F8rKRATSHzijZXhKu2z3Ms1o00lHdfLZ+AWYYbXf1wb+bcRwQ+F6oR77xiv+/CVb2OVIKZoWEis= Received: by 10.54.13.38 with SMTP id 38mr2447153wrm; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d1756050921060782b6b83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:07:34 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Test, and a request for help In-Reply-To: <200509201603.56667.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <200509201603.56667.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2203 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 9/20/05, Colin Wright wrote: > So what lojban > words should a beginner learn first? > > Numbers from 1 to 10 > me, you, them, imperative, this, that > house, think, give, bridi negation, > like, have, > A few indicators Out of that list, "them" and "have" don't really have Lojban equivalents, and you should be careful with "think". You should especially avoid thinking of {ponse} as "have". Don't use {ponse} in: I have three sisters. I have a headache. I have a book in my hand. I have something to tell you. I have brown eyes. etc, etc, etc. Think of {ponse} as "own". There is no Lojban word for "have". mu'o mi'e xorxes