From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 21 14:12:54 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EIBte-0002th-MT for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:12:54 -0700 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com ([195.54.107.73]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EIBtb-0002ta-Uh for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:12:54 -0700 Received: from [85.226.145.145] ([85.226.145.145] [85.226.145.145]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050921211250.FMZI3281.mxfep02.bredband.com@[85.226.145.145]> for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:12:50 +0200 Message-ID: <4331CAE8.6010503@handgranat.org> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:04:40 +0200 From: Sunnan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Questions (literally) References: <200509111152.03643.scottr@synthiotics.com> <20050911192124.GC29546@miranda.org> <4331B6E9.3050002@handgranat.org> <925d1756050921130263897862@mail.gmail.com> <20050921201428.GO29546@miranda.org> In-Reply-To: <20050921201428.GO29546@miranda.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2219 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners jkominek@miranda.org wrote: >There isn't some magical treatise which will allow you to start making >reasonable lujvo. The first step is to stop wanting to make lujvo. Then, >when you find you need to do it anyways, and other people think you have >succeeded, you've moved beyond beginnerness. > >But the first step is key. Don't worry about lujvo. If you're not putting >complete sentences together with ease, you're not ready to condense things >down into single words. > > > mi na selnabmi lenu finti.o'acu'i lo jufra fo lo lojbo valsi .i mi cpedu lo gidva seltcidu ki'u ledu'u mi djica ledu'u lo lujvo cu cnici leka porsi terjvo .i ki'esaimi'e snan