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From: Arran <arran4@arran4.homeip.net>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Holoalphabetic sentence?
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:38:50 +1000
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Because I was really bored:

arran@arran4 ~ $ for setence in "Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz." "The 
quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." ".o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati 
le purdi"; do echo "'$setence' contains"; echo $setence | sed "s/\(.
\)/\1\n/g" | sed "s/'/\"'\"/" | sort -f | uniq -i | grep -vE "^[^\.
\\'A-Za-z]$" | xargs echo; done
'Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz.' contains
. a b c d e f g h i J k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
'The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.' contains
. a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
'.o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi' contains
. ' a b c d e f g i j k l m n o p r s t u v x y z

Sorry about the lack of indenting, that's a "one liner." :S

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:39 am, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On 9/22/05, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
> > A "holoalphabetic sentence" is one that uses all the letters
> > of the alphabet.
>
> I knew them as "pangrams".
>
> > So: What can be done in Lojban?
>
> There's
>
>    .o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi
>
> > I would say that dot and comma don't count as alphabetic.
>
> I would say the comma certainly doesn't and the dot certainly does.
> The comma doesn't change the meaning of any word. The dot
> (glottal stop) is like any other consonant except it can't appear
> in the middle of a word. In fact it is the counterpart of the apostrophe,
> which can only appear in the middle of words. They could be considered
> alophones.
>
> > Has this been done before? If not, let's do it now.
>
> It's been done, but shorter ones are possible using longer lujvo.
>
> > By the way, I think real palindromes are impossible in Lojban
> > sentences.
>
> .o'u mi jdedji mu'o
>
> mi'e xorxes

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 Two: one to decide what to change it into, and another to figure out what 
kind of bulb would emit broken light.