From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 24 22:26:27 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EJP1v-00025O-Do for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:27 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EJP1n-00025A-Dy for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:27 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so81113nzf for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:sender; b=P6cMSOZBqGd9+90IHZz3wH5OTd2ibWVS4Loq7mYLkGP821x1LZYujq8l5DZM1H53m6r5v8W4NCZYRVkDuLmqlGiO3hbj4AB4YxI0iV1poPQfyTZun8cirPlOPUCBaEr7glCDxlVA/trHURSUWGJE653hVmlrDXcYpL4lULSV/sI= Received: by 10.36.147.10 with SMTP id u10mr339279nzd; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [67.160.188.198]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm481475nzn.2005.09.24.22.26.18; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Printed Materials Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:26:16 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200509241039.17208.scottr@synthiotics.com> <200509242132.04844.scottr@synthiotics.com> <43363068.604@hypermetrics.com> In-Reply-To: <43363068.604@hypermetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509242226.16559.scottr@synthiotics.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2317 X-Approved-By: scottr@synthiotics.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: scottr@synthiotics.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners > By the way, I've been assuming a Lojban-English dictionary here. > No reason we couldn't do others, of course. I'm thinking of the few > Lojbanists I know and what their native languages are. lol. That was the only version I was thinking of too. But you're right - there's absolutely no reason not to branch out into as many languages as we have dictionaries for. Good call! > So my first picks would be: Spanish, German, French, Turkish, > Hungarian, and Japanese. And Australian (just kidding nei,omis. :)). > Also Esperanto, as a tip of the hat to the best-known conlang. > > Chinese and Arabic maybe? As part of the Big Six? Am I missing > anything else from those six? Russian? Maybe Portugese? Portugal is small, but South America is pretty big... > How often should these be regenerated and updated? The version > information should go on the cover, I believe. I think the date it was generated would be useful information to have on the cover. > If it's every six months, I don't mind at all. If it were every > month, it would get tedious. I would think six months would be a good time span. Depends on how frequently the dictionary gets new material, I guess. Do we have any idea of its rate of growth? > As for the PDF size, IMO it's not worth Jay changing it yet. Maybe > I could make a PDF writer someday, based on data extracted from > jbovlaste. I'm a Ruby expert, and learning Austin Ziegler's > PDF::Writer is on my to-do list. I'm more concerned about the margin size than the page size. According to their instructions, the margins need to be a minimum of 0.5" on all four sides. Which they might already be for all I know - my pdf reader won't put a ruler onscreen and I haven't printed any of the pages out and measured them. Their instructions aside, I'm not sure how important the margins really are on three of the sides, but I imagine it's quite important for the inner margin so the binding doesn't impact the text. After thinking about it a bit, I think 8.5x11 for a page size is alright, and that the "Wire-O" binding that implies is actually a good choice. I tend to like "regular" books to have perfect binding, but it's nice to be able to lay reference materials flat. mu'o mi'e la skat.