From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 03 06:15:34 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EMQAI-000076-74 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:15:34 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EMQAF-00006z-35 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:15:34 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so144355wri for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:15:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=adWZsoaaw42W7abAQotuA3PAXvGZc0wgs7fnjH0J8osniEDqov4CaUm24ilg0q0aD/xVhxdFlOcvzJRHyVeZ+ucxSeu1rwGOuUISuh4PsSh/Xy37N2FQYjpgcyScUed/Mk1uZ0kDE1WyJIkssYvV+CHfxplj2B8i4RIqaknMyt0= Received: by 10.54.73.9 with SMTP id v9mr727721wra; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.142.3 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 06:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:15:30 -0400 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Random questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13272_15921119.1128345330180" References: X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 2358 X-Approved-By: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_13272_15921119.1128345330180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/3/05, Naomi K wrote: > > > 1. How do you be sarcastic in lojban? Or is sarcasm too 'american', > not understood by some cultures, and thus was left out of the lojbo ba= ngu > altogether? > > The same way you'd do it in any language. Say something but mean its opposite. As far as I know, sarcasm is not an feature provided-- or left out-- by languages themselves. Lojban is unique in providing so many words that indicate the speaker's relationship to the language, but if a word to indicate sarcasm had been provided, I don't think it should ever be used. I= t wouldn't turn a statement into sarcasm, it would just ruin the sarcasm. That's probably why it wasn't provided. > > 1. How do you say 'this week', 'last week' and 'next week' in > lojban? > > this week: cabjef last week: purlamjef next week: bavlamjef -epkat ------=_Part_13272_15921119.1128345330180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/3/05, Naomi K <alien.juxtaposition@gmail.com> wrote= :
  1. How do you be sarcastic in lojban? Or is sarcasm too 'american', not understood by some cultures, and thus was left out of the lojbo bangu altogether?
The same way you'd do it in any language. Say something but mean its opposite. As far as I know, sarcasm is not an feature provided-- or left out-- by languages themselves. Lojban is unique in providing so many words that indicate the speaker's relationship to the language, but if a word to indicate sarcasm had been provided, I don't think it should ever be used. It wouldn't turn a statement into sarcasm, it would just ruin the sarcasm. That's probably why it wasn't provided.
  1. How= do you say 'this week', 'last week' and 'next week' in lojban?
this week: cabjef last week: purlamjef next week: bavlam= jef
-epkat
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