From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 07 11:45:59 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ENxEF-0007z0-JC for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:45:59 -0700 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ENxEC-0007yr-7Z for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:45:59 -0700 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s19so361813wxc for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Yj7s+MrpSA/vj85W7FmTV+Ymv+ehleWFAmiXEUvnI//x0hx29XeJ3/vbFa12X7scOeKJf7gJnXi7uRuRuCXwaNYs5S4WGnR0yIycbwEApzezKBg3SrLLvXRhsu5+5WFipR2R1d13HgQA+OJVafT1WojysPvoRLlV0RfIjYSBaYU= Received: by 10.70.113.11 with SMTP id l11mr2445269wxc; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.115.2 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160510071145r330e1bes95e5e38bde72bf3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:45:55 -0400 From: Adam COOPER To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1519_9421307.1128710755326" References: <43426A2E.8010709@virgin.net> <20051004180933.GA18987@vicerveza.homeunix.net> <4342E16C.8070604@virgin.net> <4342F3D4.1000807@virgin.net> <925d17560510050537g4ffeebf6h16173179031aeca8@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 2381 X-Approved-By: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_1519_9421307.1128710755326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/5/05, Naomi K wrote: > > In Lojban, the two are equivalent (as far as I know), and it's a matter o= f > style > whether you stick arguments "higher" than x1 on the left or the right of > the > selbri. > > But, practically, it is much more sense to put the "higher argument" wher= e > it will be heard or read first. It makes your sentence more coherent to y= our > listener or reader. And it gets straight to the point. > > "I you gave me the cat like" sounds kinda caveman-ish to me ;-o > > mi'e nei,omis. There are some languages in which the verb comes at the end of the clause. Japanese may be one. But I suppose one would want to be consistent in where the verb/predicate goes. Hence: { i mi le nu do le mlatu mi dunda kei cu nelci } mu'i mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_1519_9421307.1128710755326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/5/05, Naomi K <alien.juxtaposition@gmail.com> wrote= :
In Lojban, the two are equivalent (as far as I know), and= it's a matter of style
whether you stick arguments "higher" than x1 on the left or the r= ight of the
selbri.

 But, practically, it is much more sense to put the "higher argument&qu= ot; where it will be heard or read first. It makes your sentence more coherent to your listener or reader. And it gets straight to the point.

"I you gave me the cat like" sounds kinda caveman-ish to me ;-o
mi'e nei,omis.


There are some languages in which the verb comes at the end of the clause. Japanese may be one. But I suppose one would want to be consistent in where the verb/predicate goes. Hence:

{ i mi le nu do le mlatu mi dunda kei cu nelci }

mu'i mi'e komfo,amonan

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