From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 17 02:54:39 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ERRhT-0004zw-Qs for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:54:36 -0700 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ERRgv-0004yR-Sw for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:54:34 -0700 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s7so782639wxc for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:54:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JXqhd6z2aikFQfv4tV8X1Ed/c5x4OJf1N3KsDpjxJXC2NruFGNpFC8fd4ARPaEkedfYY5erOYM6GvAElZSHyHt12AH4nbtnwJAIriJjZtJ37Swq5R4UJGyTf4sSBRlvvEiJ1Vfn/xktQ0njmZiNN0rxQpZbDCYM2gtIdSTrjN2A= Received: by 10.70.28.13 with SMTP id b13mr608115wxb; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.65.14 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:54:01 +1000 From: Naomi K To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Period In-Reply-To: <20051017084249.GC25303@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13552_14583929.1129542841207" References: <20051017084249.GC25303@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 2394 X-Approved-By: alien.juxtaposition@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: alien.juxtaposition@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_13552_14583929.1129542841207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline So does ".y." necessarily have to be a short sound? I'm pretty used to having a drawn out "Uhhh..." when I hesistate. mu'o mi'e nei,omis On 10/17/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Naomi K wrote: > > Is it allowable to use the lojban period to the same purpose as an > > English comma (show pauses for the reader)? > > In fact, that is the only thing that a Lojban period *can* indicate: > it means "pause here". > > However, it really shouldn't be used for hesitation pauses (that's > .y.) or to group clauses (that's not done with pausing in Lojban). > > -Robin > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > > ------=_Part_13552_14583929.1129542841207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline So does ".y." necessarily have to be a short sound? I'm pretty us= ed to having a drawn out "Uhhh..." when I hesistate.

mu'o mi'e nei,omis

On 10/17/05, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Naomi K wrote:
> Is it allo= wable to use the lojban period to the same purpose as an
> English co= mma (show pauses for the reader)?

In fact, that is the only thing th= at a Lojban period *can* indicate:
it means "pause here".

However, it really shouldn't be= used for hesitation pauses (that's
.y.) or to group clauses (that's not= done with pausing in Lojban).

-Robin

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