From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 17 07:11:38 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ERViE-0000mH-GF for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:11:38 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ERViC-0000mA-GH for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:11:38 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so474571wri for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sP8XzsomdvMq0nzk6JAQJeyfES55nWx06kHtdTlg+I0nO2uhV4STDMPShzQYhGmp+BF/pqAZpIrVYyqhungjjZSxhlnj1qfM2XZ3yBuDgugowvm0Qzvl98aAV2HARv7OsH3aQk7UoC+LDDeHXJTvslfXNs+sLQ7NWoe5FAkevuA= Received: by 10.54.142.18 with SMTP id p18mr1609485wrd; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560510170711s5b075d11rc012f3a8bb9b9906@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:11:33 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Besides In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560510160812r36936172tb66e9f8162308cd8@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2396 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/17/05, Naomi K wrote: > ki'esai > > so you would say ".iki'u lenu ko'a cpacu loi xlali teryru'e .iji'a ra'unai > tu'a ko'a fanza loi verba di'o le skule foldi" (my grammar will probably be > incorrect though...) It's {ckule}, but other than that it's all correct. {.iki'u lenu ko'a cpacu loi xlali teryru'e} is not a full bridi, it's just one term. The grammar alows that, but a more complete way of saying it would be for example {.i go'i ki'u lenu ko'a cpacu loi xlali teryru'e} or {.iki'ubo ko'a cpacu loi xlali teryru'e}. In this case {i ki'u bo} joins two same-level bridi, whereas {go'i ki'u le nu} subordinates the second bridi. I don't know if {cpacu loi xlali teryru'e} gets the right meaning across. Maybe I'd say something like {ko'a na mansa fi lo cilre cipra}. mu'o mi'e xorxes