From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 03 09:12:47 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EXidr-0002r2-B1 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:12:47 -0800 Received: from miranda.org ([65.124.18.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EXidp-0002qv-Rb for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:12:47 -0800 Received: (qmail 9844 invoked by uid 534); 3 Nov 2005 10:12:43 -0700 From: jkominek@miranda.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:12:43 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: cmavo instead of gismu Message-ID: <20051103171243.GR29546@miranda.org> References: <20051103165737.61738.qmail@web51507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051103165737.61738.qmail@web51507.mail.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: jbo, en User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-archive-position: 2467 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 08:57:37AM -0800, Opi Lauma wrote: > is it allowed to replace gismu with cmavo in an > ordinary sentence? For example: > {mi klama le zdani} = {mi kla le zda} kla and zda are rafsi, not cmavo. > And if it is not allowed, why? rafsi are not independant words, and the whole morphology/grammar would come tumbling down if you let people mix them in willy nilly. There are cmavo which act as brivla. They can go anywhere in a sentence than a gismu can. -- Jay Kominek