From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 18 12:19:05 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EdChN-0007Qx-0b for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:19:05 -0800 Received: from bay102-f1.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.11] helo=hotmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EdChK-0007Ql-SP for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:19:04 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:18:58 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:18:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.123.241.82] X-Originating-Email: [mugglesnsquibs@msn.com] X-Sender: mugglesnsquibs@msn.com In-Reply-To: <20051114151923.GA575@beverly.caldwell.out> From: "Robert Griffin" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Schwa. (& California English) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:18:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2005 20:18:58.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E828190:01C5EC7D] X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-archive-position: 2606 X-Approved-By: mugglesnsquibs@msn.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mugglesnsquibs@msn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi doi California English, which is fairly close to 'proper' American English as heard on radio or TV, has a stronger tendency to allow unstressed vowels to sink into the schwa than 'proper' American English. The accent found in upstate New York is somewhat closer to 'proper' American pronunciation. I say this as a native of Los Angeles, currently living in the San Fernando Valley (just north of Los Angeles) mu'o mi'e bobgrif. PS Would it be worthwhile for those of us in Southern California to get together monthly (or otherwise) to practice (or just plain study) Lojban? I'm out in the Pomona area roughly once per month myself. I believe there are at least a couple jbopre in the Pomona Valley, though there don't seem to be any others in the Los Angeles area. > >By the way, I speak californian english which means I may pronounce words >differently than other people. I believe that californian is considered >the proper American english, however. > >-- >Heath Caldwell >hncaldwell@csupomona.edu, GPG-Key-ID: 0x0967843B >Web Programmer >I&IT Web Development - Cal Poly Pomona > > >