From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 18 14:27:15 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EdEhP-0002M8-Eg for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:27:15 -0800 Received: from dionysos.oderland.com ([213.115.211.26]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.54) id 1EdEhM-0002Lz-T4 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:27:15 -0800 Received: from handgran by dionysos.oderland.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EdEga-0001i4-6Z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:26:24 +0100 Received: from 85.226.150.186 ([85.226.150.186]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user sunnan@handgranat.org) by handgranat.org with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:26:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1659.85.226.150.186.1132352784.squirrel@handgranat.org> In-Reply-To: <925d17560511180843r58c3afa8jcd94d49c69594261@mail.gmail.com> References: <2967.85.226.150.186.1132286067.squirrel@handgranat.org> <20051118041237.GH20158@miranda.org> <3926.85.226.150.186.1132297833.squirrel@handgranat.org> <2653.85.226.150.186.1132299499.squirrel@handgranat.org> <925d17560511180657i426bd84pd6728776ce428523@mail.gmail.com> <2144.85.226.150.186.1132328204.squirrel@handgranat.org> <925d17560511180757j6a988294hd5612103e4586e3e@mail.gmail.com> <2255.85.226.150.186.1132330759.squirrel@handgranat.org> <925d17560511180843r58c3afa8jcd94d49c69594261@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:26:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I've written a wikipedia article From: sunnan@handgranat.org To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dionysos.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lojban.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32082 32082] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - handgranat.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 2609 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > On 11/18/05, sunnan@handgranat.org wrote: >> > In many contexts "2" and "P" are much easier to read. >> >> That's a matter of both taste and habit. I prefer re and py. I want to >> Sapir-Whorf my brain to pieces and eventually learn the mekso system. >> RPN >> of course. I want to speak digits. > > Whether you write {cimuno} or {ci mu no} or {350}, the pronunciation has > to be the same. In all cases you are "speaking digits". Since I'm not yet as used to lojban as I am to english, when I see 350 I see "three-fifty". I do know the lojban numbers so when I see cimuno I know what number that is. But I call it cimuno, even "internally". >> > For example {li pasobibi} can only be a year. >> >> It can also mean Thursday, January the first, thirty-three minutes and >> eight seconds past midnight, 1970. > > I meant in a context where a date is expected, as in {de'i li pasobibi}, > and only contrasting big-endian with little-endian, i.e. YMD vs DMY. Of > course it's possible to devise all manner of different systems that will > assign > different dates to any number. In the Unix date format, 1988 means thirtythree minutes and eight seconds past midnight, january first, 1970. I guess you'd write something like: de'i li pasobibi vede'i la epok to specify that. >> m'ie snan (or, I guess it can be mi'e snani now, but that doesn't sound >> so >> similar to my Swedish name Sunnan as snan does.) > > {snanu} right? At least it uses the same letters. :) > Yeah, snanu. Sorry, I keep forgetting the last vowel in almost all gismu I "learn". I like snanu a lot better than snani, anyway. As you said, it's a near anagram. snanu and sunnan mean the same thing, too. mi'e snan