From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 23 07:13:39 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EewJX-0005BX-Ls for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:13:39 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EewJV-0005BP-MZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:13:39 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so880961wra for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:13:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PXMw57govkFwcnyCNY8fbkuJANoV80blKHCWLGLC/0NU4x3Hq/jZ1PkrQy9SWj9auqWJ3p+bb/KVIoLkk5Q9n8u1m8kuNrWxkNSY/rs/yzySbzt8a/Lr7WZ/pFHQFTO2giGn35900QIRqxchZe2uhUiTgb5chlLRFdKuXOcwVhU= Received: by 10.54.93.3 with SMTP id q3mr3322522wrb; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:13:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560511230713y4640d44ev177bb2334e407b17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:13:36 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Something, somebody. In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0511230643o10bfcd86xfd108a49a0e28a4e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051123084304.99753.qmail@web51506.mail.yahoo.com> <925d17560511230418u67ba4c09oe24e488a7d3b4c7a@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511230616y7732abf9o349fd8d71b9b9e34@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560511230627n722ddde8odd825ef1fe90bba4@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511230643o10bfcd86xfd108a49a0e28a4e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2662 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 11/23/05, HeliodoR wrote: > > Some people keep insisting that they're not "material objects." > Some other do even claim that they are not animals. Strange. I think what many people believe is that they are not purely material objects but rather a combination of material and immaterial, {lo dacti joi pruxi}. Others believe that what we perceive as soul or spirit is a product of the very complex interactions of matter. mu'o mi'e xorxes