From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 23 08:53:02 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Eexri-0006Ts-B5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:53:02 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Eexrf-0006TY-46 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:53:02 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so412604wri for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Rh4JO8+Nhd67mzdeWp1L43hM7y000R0VYlDmdQ5TNb05rNffXX5PRYGNM3GKCVU+kPYocu/P7p4iKWFOuJNbdPG5H7ig55X8f7lON4FHprQ+e463bvMnk4hecuyPc7zJ9UhAPBUk+yDEhxxTVKjtDABHKlk9Y2yJNP3tL1mV+Uo= Received: by 10.65.243.18 with SMTP id v18mr6288611qbr; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.110.8 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:52:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:52:57 -0500 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: The lyre In-Reply-To: <925d17560511230842m8659353oc0684f00b197c18d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2d3df92a0511230741t19c76b03k2fe7423abc0af7a0@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560511230813m4ccfd0fwc17f53e63b9b6fb9@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560511230842m8659353oc0684f00b197c18d@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2668 X-Approved-By: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 11/23/05, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 11/23/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > > > > > "The lyre, the lyre do strain when death is coming." > > > > > > I didn't read it as "You! Strain the lyre when death is coming." I > > read it as "When death is coming, the lyre strains." > > Hmm... Wouldn't that have to be "does" instead of "do"? > Or can "the lyre" be plural? > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > It wouldn't have to be "does" in poetry. The problem with translating poetry into Lojban is that very ambiguous and loose rules apply there. -epkat