From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 25 01:51:43 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 25 Nov 2005 01:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EfaF4-0005Wi-1j for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 01:51:42 -0800 Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EfaEw-0005Wb-2z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 01:51:41 -0800 Received: by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix, from userid 72) id CA37D2AAC5; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:51:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from [139.179.97.195] (unknown [139.179.97.195]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E2A26F0A for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:51:30 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4386EC5A.5090705@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:50:02 +0200 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-7.1.20060mdk (X11/20050322) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Schwa. References: <20051114112350.48230.qmail@web51506.mail.yahoo.com> <20051114151923.GA575@beverly.caldwell.out> <2d3df92a0511160541l8ce4d74y26c8edc556319ac3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0511160541l8ce4d74y26c8edc556319ac3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2674 X-Approved-By: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners HeliodoR wrote: [snip] > (Same with tenses - "Duh, 12? How come?") That's a matter of opinion - many linguists would say that English has only two tenses: present and past. The rest is done with modal verbs (e.g. "will") and aspect (e.g. perfective). If you look at English "tenses" as combinations of tense and aspect, the Lojban way of doing things seems a little less strange. robin.tr