From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 14 04:53:23 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EmW8J-00082O-0l for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:53:23 -0800 Received: from dionysos.oderland.com ([213.115.211.26]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.54) id 1EmW8G-00081P-Bj for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:53:22 -0800 Received: from c-0b92e255.1210-16-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([85.226.146.11]) by dionysos.oderland.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EmW88-0007VO-0Y for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:53:12 +0100 Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hawk and eagle From: Sunnan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:53:15 +0100 Message-Id: <1134564795.5808.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dionysos.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lojban.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - handgranat.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2762 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 15:32 +0300, Yanis Batura wrote: > I cannot agree with such a translation, since it, firstly, doesn't reflect the meaning of the call signs. Are the characters birds? Lojbanistas probably wouldn't choose those particular call signs. > Secondly, {mi damba jinga lo dinju} means "We fightingly win a building as a prize". > I'd rather say {mi mo'u lebna le zdani} instead. Agree that lebna is better (I was hurrying through the gismu list because I wanted to reply fast -- the main point of my message was the names) but disagree about zdani. zdani means home! > And thirdly, {je'e mi'e xok.} means "Acknowledged, this is Hawk", which is wrong in this context. I adressed this in my second mail on the topic. In short, I thought you really meant "Acknowledged, this is Hawk".