From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 14 04:55:24 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EmWAG-00008i-G0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:55:24 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EmWAG-00008b-6v for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:55:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:55:24 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "Once More" Message-ID: <20051214125524.GJ3616@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <12d58c160512120619v1ed1cdcp49af8ae1b4f3f86a@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560512121409o663e2a7ekae04309af89c599a@mail.gmail.com> <762741971.20051213083403@mail.ru> <925d17560512131613y155b947fkc1731e5492682263@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560512131613y155b947fkc1731e5492682263@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 2764 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:13:44PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > On 12/12/05, Yanis Batura wrote: > > I have carefully looked through the chapter 18 of the CLL and to > > my surprise haven't found any cmavo with the following meanings: > > > > "??? preceding ordinal" (like the operator -- of the C) > > > > "??? succeeding ordinal"(like the operator ++ of the C) > > > > In Peano axioms of arithmetics > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms) the precedence > > operator is the main tool to construct all natural numbers. > > I'm not sure how necessary it would be to have separate words for > them, you can always construct them as {su'i pa} and {vu'u pa}. Not if you want to use it in front of tenses. The idea would be to have PA that mean "plus one" and "minus one", analogous to da'a or za'u, with the current value as the default. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/