From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 04 11:17:08 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EuE8C-0004Qj-Eq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:17:08 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.205]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EuE8A-0004Qc-8F for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:17:08 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2325475wri for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:17:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BATDqUiG/cIcueFhZDSNqmBPR+WD9T0UebbY93y6N5vRS7NOJl2x+jRm8wr5DGKTWbPjxwH4CUU8vWcT36UoqwjU2Rzf4Dmsss8aUFFphEOZEsdm5bgxZvsricJhk2OBXlXwHUERwvrkN7qHTSyQRUY2LVZUnOT2geGGongyqrI= Received: by 10.54.72.9 with SMTP id u9mr2843734wra; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.68.7 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:17:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560601041117x3b36c606wd5c02da6261ff189@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:17:03 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "la" questions In-Reply-To: <008601c6114d$1df5f490$a0d2400a@caroe1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <43B59F56.1030508@bcpl.net> <925d17560601011001paebafa6kd80f4f7e25663e11@mail.gmail.com> <008601c6114d$1df5f490$a0d2400a@caroe1> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2889 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/4/06, Betsemes wrote: > > There are two separate constructions with {la}. In one, {la} can be > > folowed by any number of cmevla (consonant ending names). In the > > other, {la can be followed by a selbri, just like {le}. But they can't be > > mixed. > > Is there any reason for this limitation? If so, what it is? The benefit of separating CMENE from BRIVLA is that you can say {la djan klama} instead of having to say {la djan cu klama}. The disadvantages are that: - you have to learn more grammar rules. - you have to say {la noi cmalu djan} instead of {la cmalu djan} for "Little John". - you have to say {lo me la makyntoc skami} instead of {lo makyntoc skami} for "a MacIntosh computer". - you have to say {mi me la xorxes} instead of {mi xorxes}. I think the disadvantages far outweigh the benefit, but that's how it was done. mu'o mi'e xorxes