From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 13 08:37:31 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ExRvf-0006G8-E2 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:37:31 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.205]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ExRvd-0006G0-LY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:37:31 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so666366wra for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jJMWhqZ3Trb6i3Sk/8CoAV3hlmzt9hWDS7MNihejBI+sDnA1iO6Jf8o+aHb1miJvDRVeFjXRGaUSUK3b0ytBq9HxLfoOrkyQOuE4YvdwKimLvB4T4NvPylmADgXO5/bvclRC/BDQHAypiTitLRK5go//sFg8s5U00TO988pGEsM= Received: by 10.54.98.19 with SMTP id v19mr907511wrb; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.69.13 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560601130837r6c2da0f4w8d4c5d142113b5e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:37:28 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sunrise & sunset In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0601130758w290c977cw5763f3e8b744af3b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <43C66C7F.9070206@pcisys.net> <925d17560601121520sd9ad674ufab4f3bd531bef1b@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0601130701k69f51ddeu6685d61741591f17@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560601130736w54be1edg97add03b894a7a49@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0601130758w290c977cw5763f3e8b744af3b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2957 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/13/06, HeliodoR wrote: > > It loses the symmetry though. > > Yes. But it can be regained with {sisti} or something. {cfari} means "x1 starts to happen", {sisti} means "x1 stops doing x2". You'd need {tolcfa} for "x1 stops happening" and {tolsti} for "x1 starts doing x2". I think {lo krasi be lo donri} is best for "the time period that constitutes the beginning of the daytime period". We could also say {lo co'a donri} and {lo mo'u donri}. mu'o mi'e xorxes