From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jan 24 13:12:04 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F1VSO-0002Ss-Dd for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:12:04 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.193]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F1VSK-0002Rw-QW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:12:03 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1100228wri for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:11:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I87NKk/ce6Lhe4ULo635udXEw0WtmzeMaRQ+eHtX506BRVbVmjBmbcYM4WOBlUBRm7yxbhY8Yrc5AaODmwUf18kDSu+5ZmmWFvlgSieMgh4bBWZ6FSgVV1dZ25mA6DwMSD8Xe2EUFAbXMDh5uT7dETIOp8LsocPfkSzq2KMApDI= Received: by 10.54.70.19 with SMTP id s19mr514084wra; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.19 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:11:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560601241311q240fc708vd94c789ae520bf5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:11:58 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pamoi le'i dotco prenu poi ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c4e58c10601230530m32e0e983n89c540292d4a7057@mail.gmail.com> <20060123140904.91972.qmail@web51509.mail.yahoo.com> <12d58c160601230746i5e329fa4g5344661615d4ff34@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560601231021x704fa432sffdcad518fa93f6f@mail.gmail.com> <1283088462.20060124161953@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3015 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/24/06, Alex Joseph Martini wrote: > > Would it be correct then to say "This is the first of my books that I > have sold." as {ti pa moi lo mi cukta lo ka mi vecnu ce'u} ? Yes. Of course, this doesn't say what exactly the sorting criterion you are using is, only that it is related to your selling them. The most obvious one I can think of is when you sold them, the second most obvious is for how much. It could be made more precise: {ti pa moi lo mi cukta lo ka mi vecnu ce'u ca ma kau} "This first among my books by I sold them when" {ti pa moi lo mi cukta lo ka mi vecnu ce'u fo ma kau} "This first among my books by I sold them for how much" And again, this doesn't really say whether "first" means earliest or latest in one case, or least or most expensive in the other case. The price of infinite precision is infinite verbosity... mu'o mi'e xorxes