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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "The temperature plunged..."
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On 1/27/06, Adam COOPER <adamgarrigus@gmail.com> wrote:
> coi ro do
> I'm currently wrangling the following sentence into Lojban:
> "On 23 January temperatures in Moscow plunged from zero to -28C."
>
> { la moskOv de'i li 1 pi'e 23 cu ba'o jaurkelvo li 0 bi'o ni'u 28 }
> I'm not sure if { la moskOv } is a valid x1 for { kelvo }. Also not sure of
> that usage of { bi'o }.
>
> lo seljauke'o be bu'u la moskOv de'i li 1 pi'e 23 cu ba'o jdika fi li 28
> ji'e li ni'u 28
> This leaves "zero" implied yet untranslated.
>
> Your thoughts?

Sounds good, except for the {ba'o} which seems to indicate that by
that date the plunge had already happened.

I wouldn't wince at {de'i li 1 pi'e 23 lo seljauke'o be la moskov
cu sfubu li ni'u 28 li no} either, but others may. :)

mu'o mi'e xorxes