From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 17 10:31:02 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKJj4-0002hY-8c for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:31:02 -0800 Received: from [166.82.175.165] (helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKJj2-0002gt-Cq for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:31:02 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 289721A78; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: My first two sentences - are they correct so far? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:31:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1225392006.20060314082022@stapelberg.de> <2d3df92a0603170639l228b6945yc81ee6e0aa624d3b@mail.gmail.com> <296255583.20060317160431@stapelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <296255583.20060317160431@stapelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603171331.06940.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3117 X-Approved-By: phma@phma.optus.nu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Friday 17 March 2006 10:04, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Mh well, but isn't there some necessary word which expresses that this > are some information *about* me and not *from* me (well, they are > aswell from me, but that's not the fact I want to stress)? > The definition of zildatni is: > > x1=d1 is information gathered/produced by method/from source x2=d3 > It acts as a gloss word. > see: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/information > > So how would I use this now normally? le zildatni mi? Use {datni}. {zildatni} is what you say when you don't care whether the information is about anything or not, and just want to transmit it, compress it, etc. phma