From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Apr 26 13:15:44 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYqQK-00064A-4t for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:15:44 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYqQJ-000643-PT for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:15:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:15:43 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Jbovlaste search Message-ID: <20060426201543.GE2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20060426192953.GD2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 3164 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners OK, in my universe (as a professional sysadmin) "broken" means "completely fails to function". This is patently not the case. In fact, it functions exactly as designed. If you have a problem with the design, this isn't the forum to address it. Perhaps the main list, if you like. The *reason* it doesn't is to avoid John Q. Public seeing things like: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/selranxi The goal is for users to be motivated to fix words up so they might actually be *worth* voting for. Thus far, no-one seems to be so motivated, but that's hardly a problem unique to jbovlaste around here. In the case of the word in question, pelnimre, I am *quite* certain that I don't want John Q. Public seeing *this* crap: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/pelnimre This is a *feature*, not a bug. -Robin On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 04:06:05PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > There needs to be a vote in both directions for the words to show up > in the search. The search page doesn't say this; John Q. Public > Searcher doesn't know this; so he tries a search and it doesn't return > a result. > > Naturally he interprets this to mean that search is claiming it isn't > in there. He hunts it up alphabetically in the listing, and says "hey, > it was here all along, but search made the claim that it wasn't. > Search must be broken." > > And it is broken, by a meaningful definition of broken. > > -epkat > > > On 4/26/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Erm. It works just fine. Can you be a bit more clear as to what > > doesn't work? > > > > -Robin > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 03:28:00PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > > > Are you talking about jbovlaste? That search engine doesn't work. > > > -Matt > > > > > > On 4/26/06, Alex Joseph Martini wrote: > > > > What is the most inclusive way to search for a lojban equivalent of an > > > > English word? My test case has been {pelnimre}, which is glossed as > > > > lemon. If I search for {pelnimre} in 'virtual combination of en->jbo and > > > > jbo->en' I get a match for the entry with the gloss word 'lemon'. But I > > > > can't find any category in which I can search for {lemon} and find > > > > {pelnimre}. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > mu'omi'e .aleks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/