From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 13 03:17:43 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fq5xq-0004Wl-R9 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:17:40 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.180]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fq5xa-0004WW-1F for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:17:37 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so73928pye for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hQwHu7VVq6DFgzrK+uiwVt1pxzHgJqCUsm4pDoOMANaYx8szrfcd5v0yEEZUZgXm5QB9atHkRMKjCV0BmtaImxMuct9lvGvd9xrxdQ7l6CjWmutB96ndKx/TW828Jv3ZuQpGlFiXpADmJMzW9Bknyij7p9qy++x3srQNTwVN25Y= Received: by 10.35.115.18 with SMTP id s18mr3689200pym; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.101? ( [203.191.164.14]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q36sm1504414pyg.2006.06.13.03.17.14; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448E9012.4060109@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:14:42 +1000 From: Paul Vigo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Totally new References: <448c7d03.0257091b.6491.ffffea1b@mx.gmail.com> <4517AFBE-23B7-435C-A0B2-92B3730CDEBD@cordite.com> In-Reply-To: <4517AFBE-23B7-435C-A0B2-92B3730CDEBD@cordite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3245 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: paulvigo@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Tod Glenn wrote: > Greetings all, > > I just joined the list, having long been fascinated by artificial or > constructed languages. I've decided to take the plunge into lojban. > Does anyone have some suggestions on how to > approach learning for an absolutely raw beginner? > > ---- > Tod Glenn > todg@cordite.com > http://www.cordite.com > Hi Todd. I've just started recently as well. There's some good beginner resources on the lojban.org site. I'd say: * Read "what is lojban" for orientation * Read and do the exercises in "lojban for beginners." * Get yourself some kind of vocabulary drill system, a "leitner system" flashcard program is ideal (i've got one on my palm). Input (or commit) new words as you encounter them while reading "what is lojban" so you are being drilled on the vocab as you learn. * Get some form of word lookup tool (also got that on my palm) that you can quickly access so you to translate without losing the flow of thought * if you find yourself continually forgetting a word or concept, write a few sentences in lojban (using other familiar words as well) which you can use as a reminder of how the word or particle works * Read the reference grammar when you can be bothered, especially when some language issue pops up that you need a greater understanding of I think flashcard programs are a great way to help learn vocab. The difference between normal flashcard systems and "leitner" and related systems is that the latter schedule cards you have trouble learning so that you drill them more often. (This way you only occasionally drill familiar cards, and difficult ones come up more often, so you can keep a larger vocabulary in your system without getting flooded with things you already know well.) Let me know what you need as I did a lot of searching before coming up with my own system, and probably know of something that would suit. With flashcards I started out using paper, but quickly got over it. Paul Vigo