From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 05 08:13:36 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fy94K-0002a4-0C for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:13:36 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fy94J-0002Zx-5n for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:13:35 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d42so2223280pyd for ; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i26NN3atiFoW+7f1nWU5z7Q/Sm7WMeZIDTBTuaPSzbmY6iC+e0JA2Wnx7bIANEgMKJEP/Q8NCo6FFkrwBDrCcmINq2llB+mwSJ27cL6ITFAT8/px6Ti2m7RRSizbyXSG/hCBV7b2X4anuCn4iQohfdFJIA2N8f+HADXku4DVweY= Received: by 10.35.82.15 with SMTP id j15mr5219180pyl; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.14.17 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 08:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560607050813g5c38ea2cke2c128f0faf42f48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:13:32 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: RK-like diagramming: Anyone interested? In-Reply-To: <537d06d00607050755v7b2d995ex8ec5f0199554fbc2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44AAC810.2070300@hypermetrics.com> <44AADE4C.3080601@hypermetrics.com> <200607042148.25751.phma@phma.optus.nu> <44AB5FB7.2010609@hypermetrics.com> <537d06d00607050755v7b2d995ex8ec5f0199554fbc2@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 3340 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 7/5/06, Philip Newton wrote: > On 7/5/06, Jonathan Gibbons wrote: > > Although there is the example of > > > > > "le nu broda ku brode" and "le nu broda kei brode" are grammatical, > > > but "le nu broda brode", eliding both terminators, is not. > > > > from the discussion, that leads me to ask; is a statement that > > consists of just a sumti, with no selbri, grammatical or > > ungrammatical? ... > So I believe that {le nu broda brode} is grammatical; it's merely not > equivalent to the other two example, since {broda brode} forms a tanru > there. Right. Notice that the other two are not equivalent either: {(le nu broda ku) brode} is a full bridi. {le (nu broda kei) brode} is just a sumti. mu'o mi'e xorxes