From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jul 21 08:52:15 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3xIV-0000Xj-Ak for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:52:15 -0700 Received: from alnrmhc14.comcast.net ([206.18.177.54] helo=alnrmhc11.comcast.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3xIS-0000Xb-2N for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:52:15 -0700 Received: from bcpl.net (c-69-251-6-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net[69.251.6.86]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060721155208b140085vq2e>; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:52:09 +0000 Message-ID: <44C0F7FD.7030802@bcpl.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:51:25 -0400 From: Michael Turniansky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mi tavla fi lo fasnu be fau tu'a ko'a References: <005f01c6a1fd$8bb4fd50$a0d2400a@caroe1> <20060707203529.GV18983@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <12d58c160607081147o33d1b412l4be2c5d84ecb31f7@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560607081231m904d255x9e65e4c6ef02abf@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160607081251s5e8c49d5i2ae2073f7348526e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <12d58c160607081251s5e8c49d5i2ae2073f7348526e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020900020205020103080704" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-archive-position: 3432 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: turnip@bcpl.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020900020205020103080704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Forgive me for switching to English here... but isn't the reason that jboski doesn't undestand "cu'u fi'e ko'a" that there needs to be something between cu'u and fi'e? Can a modal directly be followed by a modal? What does it mean? Doesn't it need an argument like "cu'u ko'a fi'e ko'a"? Is there any kind of logical or non-logical connectives that can go between modals? I assume what we're shooting for here is something like "is created and said by X"...? BTW, betsemes (if you're still listening), can I assume the original quote means something like, "those who ridicule what they know nothing about are ignorant"? --gejyspa komfo,amonan wrote: > On 7/8/06, Jorge Llambías > wrote: > > On 7/8/06, komfo,amonan > wrote: > > > > .i mi stidi lu da poi ckasu de poi da na djuno ke'a cu > > ca'o binxo lo tolmencre cu'u fi'e la'o sy Samael Aun Weor sy > > > > lo'u cu'u fi'e le'u xu cu gendra > > ja'a gendra i mintu lu cu'u ku fi'e zo'e li'u > > > a'u la jboski cu na tugni i xu > > lu ko'a broda cu'u fi'e ko'e li'u > > smuni mintu > > lu ko'a broda cu'u ko'e gi'e broda fi'e ko'e li'u > > --------------020900020205020103080704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Forgive me for switching to English here... but isn't the reason that jboski doesn't undestand "cu'u fi'e ko'a" that there needs to be something between cu'u and fi'e? Can a modal directly be followed by a modal? What does it mean? Doesn't it need an argument like "cu'u ko'a fi'e ko'a"? Is there any kind of logical or non-logical connectives that can go between modals? I assume what we're shooting for here is something like "is created and said by X"...?

BTW, betsemes (if you're still listening), can I assume the original quote means something like, "those who ridicule what they know nothing about are ignorant"?

--gejyspa
komfo,amonan wrote:

On 7/8/06, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/8/06, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> .i mi stidi lu da poi ckasu de poi da na djuno ke'a cu
> ca'o binxo lo tolmencre cu'u fi'e la'o sy Samael Aun Weor sy
>
> lo'u cu'u fi'e le'u xu cu gendra

ja'a gendra i mintu lu cu'u ku fi'e zo'e li'u

a'u la jboski cu na tugni i xu

lu ko'a broda cu'u fi'e ko'e li'u

smuni mintu

lu ko'a broda cu'u ko'e gi'e broda fi'e ko'e li'u

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