From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 17 12:57:45 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDnzt-0001BD-Kg for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:57:45 -0700 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDnzr-0001B4-TC for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:57:45 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id l8so385219nzf for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S+7Z5YIW0SRQ4OqP9daWsvPdiXe1UVyaBG8a49FKRCCM18o7uH52ZvkYCf+x4HFKwA9TYpac0oSteDanyfaM2gBWpm976V+8igZoVEBkki3bUIIV4xMFTj+Bd5aBfFApNzT6YJFgsEkZkgXfdVGG7FPKNyGiDdWoCeshR1VY88s= Received: by 10.35.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr4176816pyj; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.22.14 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560608171257w5d269a04ve740c4233c921a23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:57:42 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: improved translation In-Reply-To: <737b61f30608171138o26d2bbfejc318c9d92e41da9e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44E4AAA3.4020708@freenet.de> <737b61f30608171138o26d2bbfejc318c9d92e41da9e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3526 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 8/17/06, Chris Capel wrote: > On 8/17/06, Michael Graff wrote: > > > .i roda poi flecu gi'a rokci cu na'e se cmene > > I believe "gi'a" should be ".a.". "gi'a" only connects bridi, and "a" > only sumti. No, {gi'a} is right there. {.a} connects sumti, but here we don't have sumti. {gi'a} connects bridi-tails, which consist of a selbri and any trailing sumti. In this case it's just two selbri {flecu} and {rokci}. > > .i mi ba pensi lo ve ciksi be lo smuni be zo ti be'o bei mi bei do bei > > ne'i lo xatra > > Ack. That sentence makes my head hurt. Also, I think you have an extra > "bei" before ne'i. {bei} is correct to add the term {ne'i lo xatra} as an argument to the selbri {ve ciksi}. Without {bei} the term would be added to the selbri {pensi}. mu'o mi'e xorxes