From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 05 09:04:16 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GVVhl-0003kn-Uz for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:04:15 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GVVhd-0003kS-9E for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:04:10 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id i49so639050pyi for ; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aRgCB58s7NOeje6AckjeqnGuxcbpCVnbbnIYkgvrMczms1azPdTA/5K6Zpww9uK6yxmbC7j3uIznLP88DP4CCeIM9Yz5ZBri2RyYvq4gwoN04W0hjIJKa+WzLpH8rRbVjLLBlFFvb8KVArXXFuJIe5FdK7pMYhfMHl5o+WvNw9U= Received: by 10.35.19.9 with SMTP id w9mr3762721pyi; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.10.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 09:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560610050904j5e5fb166rc8130d5f9b740250@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:04:03 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lightbulb In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <241e6b720610031415y33825031yd2ead1d89dc98c8d@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30610040749u11793452k598fc3b110599fbd@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560610050721w1919f16dpd694e39603ab019a@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3612 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/5/06, Matt Arnold wrote: > > For example, when > > Little Red Ridinghood is told by the wolf that his teeth are so big the better > > to eat her with, the wolf is giving a final cause of why his teeth are so big, > > but this is not {mu'i}. Perhaps {te pi'o}. > > > > The material cause of something is what it is made of, and the formal > > cause of something is what its form is. These might be {se ma'e} and > > {te ma'e}, but we probably wouldn't call them causes. > > Those aren't causes. -epkat Take it up with Aristotle. :) mu'o mi'e xorxes