From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 13 20:30:38 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GYaEP-0000SL-PT for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:30:38 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GYaEH-0000SD-1I for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:30:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846A2EBCAD for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:30:24 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50227-06 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:30:22 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8866CEBC89 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:30:22 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from host-102-2-129.211.ru (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42C35C1B for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:30:30 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:30:19 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1984300751.20061014103019@mail.ru> To: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: problem In-Reply-To: References: <9ea0266d0610120211gd3e5557p8dd2970b19f39571@mail.gmail.com> <9ea0266d0610130733td0d909u603eef56708b711c@mail.gmail.com> <200610131245.30672.phma@phma.optus.nu> <9ea0266d0610131038g1bd60479ja8f74a745c8cd0fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3635 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 14.10.2006, 0:59, Matt Arnold wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unvoiced_glottal_fricative > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative It's like explaining difference between [d] and [t] to a 40 year old Chinese who never heard any language except his native. mi'e .ianis. --------------------- Lojban: A Language With *Intelligent* Design