From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 22 09:50:20 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmwEm-0002p2-4Z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:50:20 -0800 Received: from smtp01.domeneshop.no ([194.63.248.15] helo=lakepoint.domeneshop.no) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmwEb-0002oZ-0b for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:50:19 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([84.52.247.50]) (authenticated bits=0) by lakepoint.domeneshop.no (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kAMHo3US007684 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:03 +0100 Message-ID: <45648DCB.8090601@bommelibom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:03 +0100 From: Einar Faanes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lojban Beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] The big lujvo hunt: Revolution. X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 3694 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: einar@bommelibom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi. I'm continuing my quest to construct new lujvo. This time I tried "revolution" (fundamental/big change in government). It suprised me that it hadn't already been created. At least I could not find it in jbovlaste. If it has, please notify me. I'll also be happy if someone could come up with a gismu which is closer to "fundamental" than barda. I'll be happy for any response whatsoever. This is my notes: barda (bra): b1 is big/large in property/dimension(s) b2 (ka) as compared with standard/norm b3 turni (tru): t1 governs/rules/is ruler/governor/sovereign/reigns over people/territory/domain/subjects t2 galfi (gaf, ga'i): g1 (event) modifies/alters/changes/transforms/converts g2 into g3 veljvo = turni galfi g2=t1, t2 dropped. gaftru: g1 (event) modifies/alters/changes/transforms/converts governor/goverment g2=t1 into new governor/goverment g3 veljvo = barda gaftru b1=ga1, b2 dropped bragaftru: b1=ga1 (event) is a big change in goverment from goverment ga2, to goverment ga3 co'o .einar.