From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 22 14:27:42 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gn0ZC-0001DU-44 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:27:42 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gn0Z8-0001DC-41 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:27:41 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so282179uge for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:27:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J7fwzJlUM7Z3WUWQ9bPFkcUgnX09TSwTWBDJcFnE7D1w0Lhp00pSO46I7VgfnLtjcD0DrVeolG7cwi7K7G7cfFoBxX/iWJC6/FGI152pee8/eVK3AR+J4u7E6007oL1IbPLnVreKg+ik1hyxb7WnhWmZZbm6WI1e5w5RdqkwzDA= Received: by 10.78.127.2 with SMTP id z2mr8378510huc.1164234456643; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.144.3 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:27:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:27:36 -0500 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lujvo creation: economical class. In-Reply-To: <45637FC0.2050806@bommelibom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4561F3E0.3000409@bommelibom.com> <45621B0C.4090801@phma.optus.nu> <4562214C.9080200@bommelibom.com> <12d58c160611210847r24a4302cma891495a6a67b886@mail.gmail.com> <45637FC0.2050806@bommelibom.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3699 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Are there any natural languages that express this concept as a single word? Are you sure you want to? -Eppcott On 11/21/06, Einar Faanes wrote: > >> Einar Faanes: > >> > That was what I was afraid of. A gismu signifying society or community > >> > is what I need. Maybe {cecmu}? > >> > On 11/21/06, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > >> Is this concept in any way different from "socio-economic class"? If not, > >> maybe "jdini jikca klesi" will work as a veljvo. > > komfo,amonan skrev: > > The place structure of {jdini} betrays IMHO it's inappropriateness for > > this > > lujvo concept. How about {ni ricfu klesi}? mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan > > Maybe, but I don't think they would fit the concept I'm trying to > describe, which is social classes divided by economic interests. I think > {cemkle} (from veljvo {cecmu klesi}): x1=k1 is a > class/category/subgroup/subset within community x2=c1=k2 of organisms > x3=c2 with defining property x4=k3; and putting {jdini}, {kamcfu} or > {kampindi} in x4. Can x3 be omittet, I don't think specifying the > organism is useful in this use. > > Einar. > > > >