From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Dec 09 18:50:56 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GtEmG-0005kO-Gp for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:50:56 -0800 Received: from web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GtEm9-0005k6-G0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:50:56 -0800 Received: (qmail 15660 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2006 02:50:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Pmxfwfc/L7YwtWmPjUaIq1O4zwq9YN613RaG59lrNOdw2UeNUerVjsHHpOAZbNT5PjcPjRqQgunlxsa/ldt2oywfXQYFoCkW2xZDzbFMIMXamAKjrJlMx0nrJsNM/MvXTVG8tjBeGCfR+w7OG48p7RF5eIN0XMOHGCcRq+TnJg4=; X-YMail-OSG: XGsOLccVM1kX_OATGZHTw_qkJOl5YZ.Haz5NuKVw9RIreFn2pnc92mkkDUqN_hYiTo3WVMH2XTM1G5CqWmJnwBKHrrkfiXS_51iW9NPtmU4tRY.xjgyA3KeaXTX9wV_Ggx7mL9zQFjCliMg- Received: from [75.0.147.161] by web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:50:48 PST Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 18:50:48 -0800 (PST) From: Nathaniel Krause Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Does this mean what I think it means? To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <457B3AC4.5070906@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1418139243-1165719048=:14551" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <189107.14551.qm@web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-archive-position: 3831 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1418139243-1165719048=:14551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ronald Guida wrote: I read the following short conversation on the main Lojban list: (Person A) lo lijda prenu cu je'a carmi mabla (Person B) za'a lo du'u go'i cu te lijda do (Person A) a'o : le balvi cu to'e mabla .I o'a cai ko prami ko (Person C) xu do CNIno.i xu do ZVAti la'o.py. irc://irc.freenode.net #lojban .py. .i mi NELci do .ui.u'i Here is what I think they said: (Person A) Religious people are indeed extremely derogatory! (Person B) I see you religiously believe that. (Person A) [Hope] The future is commendatory. Love yourself with overwhelming pride! (Person C) Are you new? Are you on irc://irc.freenode.net #lojban? I like you :-) [amused]. Is this right? -- Ron Yeah, basically. Person A presumably meant to say {se mabla} rather than {mabla}, which makes the first statement more sensible. Replacing {mabla} with {se mabla}: Person A: "(I) do indeed intensely deride religion people." Person B: "I see that that is a tenet of your religion." Person A: "The future will be commended (I hope)." Extremely proudly: "Love yourself." Andrii: "Are you new? Are you on irc://irc.freenode.net #lojban? I like you." and he indicates that he likes and is amused by Person A. mi'e sen --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-1418139243-1165719048=:14551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ronald Guida <ronguida@mindspring.com> wrote:
I read the following short conversation on the main Lojban list:

(Person A) lo lijda prenu cu je'a carmi mabla
(Person B) za'a lo du'u go'i cu te lijda do
(Person A) a'o : le balvi cu to'e mabla .I o'a cai ko prami ko
(Person C) xu do CNIno.i xu do ZVAti la'o.py. irc://irc.freenode.net
#lojban .py. .i mi NELci do .ui.u'i

Here is what I think they said:

(Person A) Religious people are indeed extremely derogatory!
(Person B) I see you religiously believe that.
(Person A) [Hope] The future is commendatory. Love yourself with
overwhelming pride!
(Person C) Are you new? Are you on irc://irc.freenode.net #lojban? I
like you :-) [amused].

Is this right?
-- Ron

Yeah, basically. Person A presumably meant to say {se mabla} rather than {mabla}, which makes the first statement more sensible. Replacing {mabla} with {se mabla}:

Person A: "(I) do indeed intensely deride religion people."
Person B: "I see that that is a tenet of your religion."
Person A: "The future will be commended (I hope)." Extremely proudly: "Love yourself."
Andrii: "Are you new? Are you on irc://irc.freenode.net #lojban? I
like you." and he indicates that he likes and is amused by Person A.

mi'e sen


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