From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 18 14:21:01 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H7fcs-0004QW-Fq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:20:59 -0800 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.14.82] helo=hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H7fcl-0004QM-LF for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:20:53 -0800 Received: FROM [141.213.221.81] (bursley-221-81.reshall.umich.edu [141.213.221.81]) BY hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 45AFF280.76ADA.11576 ; 18 Jan 2007 17:19:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <647A3A20-26A2-405C-95C9-D0760D1EC3F9@mindspring.com> References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4021D41AC@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <200701181032.23523.phma@phma.optus.nu> <647A3A20-26A2-405C-95C9-D0760D1EC3F9@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <22C91387-5D62-4710-ACBF-86B29EDC0F81@umich.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alex Martini Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: FW: quantified number sumti, fences, and meshes Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:19:45 -0500 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3913 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Jan 18, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Cortesi wrote: > OK, beginner's list question, > > On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >>> "The 3 sticks measured-in-meters were 2 2's, and a 3" >> {le ci grana cu mitre re li re jo'u li ci} > > Why does not {li ci} break off (following the jo'u comma) to become > the x3 of mitre? > What tells me the whole {re li re jo'u li ci} is one sumti? > > dc > Not 100% sure, but j'ou says that the selbri's not over yet. {jo'u} is in selma'o JOI, which joins two things, that would otherwise be separate selbri, into one position. An example like something you might have seen is {le ckafi joi le tcati cu xamgu} "The coffee, mixed with the tea, is good". zo'o Although in real life, it probably isn't. Here {joi} is doing a similar thing as {jo'u} did above. ni'o If you take a look at these in jbofi'e, you will need to add an extra terminator because the parser "doesn't get it" otherwise. Use {lo'o} before {jo'u} in the first case, and {ku} before {joi} in the second. This is because things in JOI can join two kinds of things, and the parser doesn't know which kind you're trying to do. no'i Can someone explain the difference between JOI and JA ? mu'o mi'e .aleks.