From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 24 09:46:39 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H9mCk-0007Ur-4a for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:39 -0800 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.235]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H9mCf-0007Uj-9g for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:37 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so248954wri for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h54rPhawDfl41SGWUq1d4Yo/5JhuSyAA5fTSiyD3zVOikrI7TV8bPDdMAB2lDYoLJMKt9yo/MfFz2B2PJiGKRdB8vyuGb0EmQUziR7hlKpHtcGCB6UalV9eUJ2EswBzIQ6tCEMXid7Thde8i3XVN/oRJn7ihjFw479Ch3KAQLzY= Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr843563hud.1169660789988; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.39.8 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:29 -0800 From: "Theodore Reed" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down In-Reply-To: <200701241236.14159.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4557_11085177.1169660789923" References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4021D41DF@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <200701241236.14159.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: -20 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3952 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ted.reed@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_4557_11085177.1169660789923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 1/24/07, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > Then there are syllabic consonants, which are important for determining > whether a word is pronounceable, but have no effect on placing the > stress. "bakrto" (an ungulate of uncertain identity mentioned in Leviticus > 11) could be "BA,kr,to" or "BAK,rt,o", and "cinkytoltri" is stressed on > "to" > no matter how many syllables you make of "ltr". This seems a little wrong. I believe the stress needs to fall on the r in that case, whether it's grouped with the k or the t. Anyone with additional information on this? -- Theodore Reed (treed/bancus) www.surreality.us ------=_Part_4557_11085177.1169660789923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 1/24/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

Then there are syllabic consonants, which are important for determining
whether a word is pronounceable, but have no effect on placing the
stress. "bakrto" (an ungulate of uncertain identity mentioned in Leviticus
11) could be "BA,kr,to" or "BAK,rt,o", and "cinkytoltri" is stressed on "to"
no matter how many syllables you make of "ltr".

This seems a little wrong.  I believe the stress needs to fall on the r in that case, whether it's grouped with the k or the t. Anyone with additional information on this?

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Theodore Reed (treed/bancus)
www.surreality.us ------=_Part_4557_11085177.1169660789923--